The Artemis Podcast – Presented by Hunt To Eat

Join Marcia Brownlee and co-hosts Maggie Heumann and Becca Aceto as they talk to the adventurous, accomplished women who are redefining conservation through their lives in the field and on the water.

EP 26: Kami Elsisie and an Epic New Mexico Ibex Hunt

Kami Elsisie is a paramedic by day, and a hunter in just about every other spare minute. New Mexico offers an incredible array of game, both native and exotic. Kami tells us about an epic ibex hunt, plus her story about coming to the sport as an adult. Also… have you ever been out fishing/hunting/[insert outdoor pursuit here] and have someone ask, “So… did your boyfriend take you?”

  • 2:00 – Want to introduce someone to eating wild game? Meatloaf is the winner here.
  • 5:00 – Maggie’s favorite pronghorn green chili recipe, add a teaspoon or so of juniper berries for an extra flavor kick.
  • 8:00 – Adult-onset hunting… another story of getting into it! Kami’s hunting life is punctuated by paramedic shifts in Albuquerque.
  • 10:00 – Teaching the boyfriend to hunt… twice the tag draw opportunities!
  • 11:30 – Depredation hunt for ibex in New Mexico… yes, ibex.
  • 16:00 – Those once-in-a-lifetime tags? Sometimes they happen ALL IN THE SAME YEAR
  • 17:00 – This is probably the best New Mexico ibex story you’re going to hear this year
  • 24:00 – Out-of-state ibex tags
  • 26:00 – New Mexico is something of a hotspot for exotic game – Himalayan tar, oryx, ibex, Barbary sheep
  • 28:00 – Heavier rifle, less kickback
  • 31:00 – Adding a bird dog to the family, and finding out your trusty pitbull has a knack for hunting squirrels
  • 33:00 – Carrying a heavy gun… get that comfy shoulder strap, baby. And hitch it over your pack, too.
  • 38:00 – Falconry… one of those pursuits you can’t resist if the opportunity comes up. It’s a crazy-amazing synergy between humans, dogs, and raptors.
  • 45:00 – Wildlife Wednesdays with the New Mexico Wildlife Federation … anyone can join via Zoom since Covid has pushed the events online. Follow NMWF for more! FB: @nmwildlife; Insta: @nmwildlifefed
  • 49:00 – The women’s hunting/fishing space… let’s dish for a minute.
  • 52:00 – “Did your boyfriend take you fishing?” … OR, “Who guts your animal?” 
  • 1:07:00 – Follow Kami on Insta: @kamkam520

EP 25: Rifles 101 with Rachel Schmidt and Neal Emery

Rifles – they seem so simple, right? You put the bullet in. You pull the trigger. You (hopefully) kill the animal. But there’s a lot of nuance in how a rifle performs, and it can often feel overwhelming to new hunters. This week we’re talking to two experts from the firearms industry: Rachel Schmidt, formerly of Kimber Manufacturing, and Neal Emery of Hornady. 

  • 3:00 – Mushrooms in lasagna? OR CAPERS?!
  • 5:30 – Piscivorous: You were probably missing this from your vocabulary.
  • 7:00 – On growing up in a hunting family, “I never knew there wasn’t hunting.”
  • 14:00 – Rifle calibers… what do those numbers mean? 
  • 15:00 – First off, you don’t need to be a rifle caliber/reloading expert to have enough working knowledge to go hunting. So don’t sweat it. Start with knowing what you want to hunt.
  • 18:00 – Calibers are confusing. It’s like learning the English language… there are some general rules, but lots (LOTS) of exceptions.
  • 19:00 – Hornady website, go to “Rifles” and “Ammunition” for a basic caliber chart
  • 21:00 – Start with the basics: How does your rifle work? What does the firing pin do? How does the safety stop it from firing? Check out this great animation from
  • 27:00 – Caliber is just a size. The same caliber bullets can come in different weights, which are called grains (i.e. 220 grain versus 110 grain)
  • 32:30 – Rifle fit and recoil. Heavier guns generally absorb recoil better (the downside: you have to carry them places).
  • 35:00 – Muzzle brakes screw onto the tip of your barrel, and they dissipate the pressure of the air as the bullet exits the barrel, lessening recoil
  • 37:00 – Recoil pads can go on the back of the gun to soften the recoil impact on your shoulder
  • 37:15 – And different ammunition has different recoil… minimizing the weight of the bullet can reduce recoil some. And different gunpowder has different burning properties that can affect how a bullet feels leaving the barrel. In short: Lower recoil loads exist.
  • 39:30 – Does noise make recoil feel worse? Wear ear protection!
  • 44:00 – Bullet construction: This controls how fast (and when) a bullet opens up…aka mushrooming.
  • 50:00 – How well a rifle shoots certain ammo is subjective. The only way to know what works best for your gun is to try a bunch of different bullets.
  • 1:00:00 – Checklist for choosing a rifle: Game you’re hunting, stock fit against your body, weight of the rifle, budget.
  • 1:04:00 – Length of pull: distance between the trigger to the butt of the gun
  • 1:06:00 – Hornady cheek pieces
  • 1:12:00 – Rifle myth busters: “A good cartridge for women and kids is the .243”
  • 1:24:00 – Marcia’s Moroccan Fish Tagine with halibut.

EP 24: Healing in the Outdoors with Katelyn Sheehan

Katelyn Sheehan of Anchorage took a circuitous route to becoming a hunter. Her first time shooting a Sitka black-tailed deer on the island of Kodiak was a game-changer for her, and it’s an experience she’s been able to bring into her social work. Katelyn tells Artemis about why spending time in the outdoors can be healing, both in her own life and the lives of the veterans she takes into the backcountry. 

  • 3:00 – A hunting genesis story that starts with great people
  • 5:00 – Sitka black-tailed deer hunt on Kodiak. A first-time harvest, and a chance to absorb the hunting lifestyle from a family who lives it intimately
  • 10:30 – A journey into outdoors healing. Katelyn started in the military, then social work, then the outdoor guiding, eventually with No Barriers in Colorado
  • 15:00 – “The Body Keeps the Score” by Bessel Van Der Kolk
  • 15:30 – Trauma is something we hold on to, but there’s a lot we can do to release it
  • 17:00 – Sometimes the absence of spending time in nature is what makes us realize how much we need it (lookin’ at you, Covid!)
  • 23:00 – Sometimes the outdoors strip away what’s distracting us, and it lets us see what we need to work on
  • 28:00 – Great American Outdoors Act plus Katelyn’ advocacy on LWCF; plus, Alaska U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski’s decision to stand with GAOA
  • 30:30 – LWCF 101: How it’s (supposed to be) funded and what that’s meant the sporting community, and pretty much everyone who wants to spend time outside
  • 33:30 – Anchorage’s Chester Creek Trail: LCWF beneficiary, and about the raddest place to go salmon fishing within Anchorage city limits
  • 35:00 – Moose run-in on a bike during moose calving season
  • 37:00 – Episode 12 with Kyla West – Don’t Run (unless it’s a moose)
  • 39:00 – Artemis storytelling contest for GAOA advocacy

EP 23: Ask Artemis with Marcia, Becca & Maggie

This week we tackle listener questions — from gearing up for a 9-day elk-hunting trip, to why it can feel so dang hard asking for help. Got a question? Send us a note at

  • 1:40 – Maggie’s 22-pound lake trout story + making the front page of the Sun Valley newspaper
  • 4:00 – Old-timers with handlebar mustaches are the best kind of trolling tutors
  • 4:30 – Mackinaw = lake trout, which aren’t really a trout… they’re a char species
  • 7:20 – Ain’t no party like a fence-pull party!
  • 13:00 – The Yellowstone firetruck fish tale
  • 14:00 – Range finder AND bino — OR — range-finding binos?
  • 16:30 – Vortex Furies – Marcia and Maggie’s range-finding binos
  • 19:00 – Why is it so hard to ask for help?
  • 24:00 – First-time 9-day backcountry elk hunting trip – what should a new hunter know?
  • 26:00 – Layering: hunting vs. backpacking
  • 27:00 – Let’s talk about traction for a minute
  • 28:00 – Butchering and pack-out: Revisit Episode 19: Butchery with Anna Borgman and EP 5: Packing Game Out with Sarah Keller
  • 31:00 – How to hang your food/game for bear safety – Great article from goHunt
  • 32:30 – Terrorizing bunny at camp, another reason to hang food
  • 34:00 – Fly-fishing: How do you bring your line in to mimic different bug movements? (Add ‘skittering’ to your vocabulary)
  • 37:30 – “So you think you want to fish?”
  • 42:00 – On keeping up with the Joneses, tricks for using your strength to your advantage (or phoning a friend when necessary)
  • 45:00 – Gear Review: Hiking and wading stilts
  • 52:00 – Episode 12 – Don’t Run with Kyla West
  • 53:00 – Montana Artemis Alliance
  • 55:00 – Artemis map